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clearwriter



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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ka-canor wrote:
I still go for backlinks and content for sure.


I am not saying there are no benefits of backlinks.

Backlinks can surely:
1) Improve your page rank
2) Can drive traffic to your website directly( non search engine traffic)
3) Can drive traffic indirectly to your website. For example if the site with your backlink is well indexed and have high SERP position,then you will get a share of that traffic from search engines too.

The purpose of this article is NOT to say "Hey guys! Stop working to get backlinks". Smile

The purpose is to show the importance of "onsite optimization" to get the better google position.


I think it is clear now.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for great info mate
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lols Improve google Rank by driving Traffic it's a long tail keywords that's why Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another important thing which most of the users dont know, in the beginning is "No Follow" tag in backlinks.

Before spamming any high PR forum or blog always make sure that the blog/forum is not using the no-follow tag for the links.

The links with NO Follow tag are not counted to increase the page rank of your website. They can just send you traffic, of course.

So it is better to search for Do Allow Blogs and Forums before establishing back links for your website(s).

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clearwriter wrote:
Ka-canor wrote:
I still go for backlinks and content for sure.


I am not saying there are no benefits of backlinks.

Backlinks can surely:
1) Improve your page rank
2) Can drive traffic to your website directly( non search engine traffic)
3) Can drive traffic indirectly to your website. For example if the site with your backlink is well indexed and have high SERP position,then you will get a share of that traffic from search engines too.

The purpose of this article is NOT to say "Hey guys! Stop working to get backlinks". Smile

The purpose is to show the importance of "onsite optimization" to get the better google position.


I think it is clear now.

Thanks.
http://www.cleararticles.com/

Better read this short article by John Scott http://www.v7n.com/pagerank-wins.php

PageRank Wins
Two schools of thought exist in the SEO industry. The SEO copywriters and the Link Mongers. For reasons put forth here, the Link Mongers will always win in the SERPs.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good discussion indeed.I think a cocktail approach will be help
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cleararticles.com/

Backlinks are important in 2 ways.
1) First it improves your web page's rank.
2) Second it drives some traffic from the site from where the back link is coming.

So, we cannot say that the back links are not important at all. Most of the business depends on the back links as most of the sites cannot be on the top search positions.

But back links should be "Quality Back links". Quality means
a) Back link should be from high PR site
b) It should come from the site which has the same theme as your site's.
c) The anchor text of your back link should be your keywords.

And also make sure that the back link is not having with "No Follow" tag, or the back link will not be considered to improve your page rank by the search engines, like google.

So, i think it is clear what is the importance of back links.

You see, I am not against the back links:-) I just posted the above post to elaborate the importance of onsite optimization.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case of high competitors key terms, I think according to Pagerank tech,it still need a lot of links.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice post regarding on page optimization. But without any backlinks your site will never be included in the SERPs, do you agree?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly certain that you definitely need a fair amount of good backlinks to achieve any profitable SERP.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely, even with the best on page optimization done if you have no back links it will be impossible to get high rankings on on difficult keywords.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you

i changed the order of my paragraph to get more keywords in the beggining of the page as adviced
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent topic!

I was wondering if or how someone can tell if they have too many keywords in their page? I just launched my site and I dont want to over use the keywords..
any tips?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clearwriter wrote:
In conclusion:

A simple formula is:

High Page Rank = How other websites rank your website

High Search Rank = How Search Engines Rank your website for some keywords.

Smile


Well done man!I learned a lot!Thanks! Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:33 pm    Post subject: Thanks buddy Reply with quote

Ir really helped me a lot..i am now going to implement few.As i don't have sitemap.html file associated my website. thanks for the informative post Smile
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